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November 13, 2000


Agenda

1:15 p.m. Agenda Review and Introductions

1:30 p.m. WQF Web Site Update/Check-in

1:35 p.m. Legislative Updates (as needed)

1:45 p.m. WQCC Update (Paul Frohardt)

2:00 p.m. WQCC process for Pre-Rule Making (Re: Externally generated proposals)—Paul Frohardt, Evan Ela , Russ Clayshulte

3:00 p.m. Break

3:15 p.m. New Sanitary Sewer Overflow regulation and proposals (Tad Foster)

3:45 p.m. Nutrient Criteria Committee Update (Dave Holm)

4:00 p.m. Ammonia Criteria Committee Update (Tad Foster)

4:15 p.m. Committee Updates (as needed)

4:45 p.m. Next Meeting Agenda

Legislative Updates

  • We have a new democratic Senate in Colorado and a "Conservative" minority in senate
    • John Andrews, minority leader C Marilyn Musgrave, caucus chair
    • Hillman is the assistant minority leader
  • Senator Evans is interested in moving an initiative forward (similar to last year's SB 215) and is currently calling a series of meetings with the Water Congress
  • Bill that gives tax credits for fish hatcheries to help clean up whirling disease—(may have bipartisan support)
  • There may a reintroduction of a bill to make D.O.W. an enterprise fund
  • There is a bill that has been drafted to create a permanent interim water committee
  • Since passage of Amendment 23 there is concern about endangered species fund
  • There will be a number of growth bills in the next session
  • Will be some kind of hog bill given the regulatory climate
  • There will be a bill for the reintroduction of wolves
  • Animas La Plata may have a bill regarding funding
  • A committee under Ron Catani is considering legislation rather than waiting for courts to decide Re: landowners and recreation "float" interests

WQCC Update

  • Commission adopted new Basic Standards; Legal Services Staff voiced a concern about a provision that was added in the 1980s but not changed in the most recent revision
  • In November, the Commission held an emergency hearing to make the required change to be sure the regulation is consistent with the statute regarding Section 207
  • WQCC needs clarification regarding the quorum rule as related to conflict of interests (should those that have the conflict of interest be counted in the quorum?) Commission is going to take this issue up at the next Procedural Rules Hearing—probably in July of 2001
  • South Platte water quality standards hearing
    • Recreation classifications- Class 1a is the default classification according to the Basic Standards rules. Do we have to have a use attainability now to avoid a further burden later if it led to a down grading? Conclusion: should be the same burden now or later.
    • Small/shallow urban streams: If there were no indicators of swimming, the department decided it should be classified as Rec. 1aC The commission went with Rec. 2 in this instance.
  • Self audit bill was resolved through a MOU between the State and EPA. It requires a public hearing (November 21, 12:30 p.m.) as part of the Hazardous Waste Commission meeting
  • WQCC along with other agencies will have a joint working meeting for overlapping issues (include GOCO Board, WQCC, the Wildlife Commission, CWCB, Agriculture Commission, Water Resources & Power Development Board, and the Ground Water Commission) Meeting date TBA, 10:00- 5:00 p.m. The Agenda will be in 3, 11/2 hour sessions on:
    1. Growth
    2. Stream/river restoration
    3. General coordination

WQCC December Schedule

  • Rule making Phase II storm water rules
  • OGCC rulemaking proposal on a site specific "limited use and quality" classification
  • Triennial review for CAFO Regulations, "Cheraw" Lake control regulation (quality/quantity issues)
  • Information Hearings: 305 (d) report, human health criteria
  • Senate Bill 89-181 reports from OGCC, Hazardous materials and Waste Management Division

October Meeting

  • Mixing zone provisions were passed in October
    • Thanks to the work of Mixing Zone group—extended for 2 years
  • CPP document discussion was very involved and CWQCC will look for input from WQF
  • 3 commissioners terms will be up on February 15, 2001 and may have a couple of openings
  • Have discussed with WQCC a change of process for March hearing to set deadline three weeks earlier for prehearing statement. At regular prehearing date, everyone can respond to the full arguments of proponents rather than just title of arguments.
  • Under these new deadlines, the March hearing dates will be:
    • January 17th - pre hearing statement due for proponents
    • February 7th - regular pre hearing deadlines
    • February 28th - Rebuttal deadline

Concern: Will the division have enough time to prepare rebuttal statements if a number were received on February 7th?

Concern: Are we trying to limit the time at WQCC hearing too much? Is this really in our best interest? As the issues are getting more difficult should we be limiting the time?

WQCC Process For Rulemaking

  • Internal proposals from the division have resulted in others being a part of discussion and have led to investigating a number of alternatives
  • Current formal procedures seem very compressed into a short period of time. Seems to ensure that parties take a hard line early on
  • Thornton would have liked to have discussion with WQF early in the process. Water suppliers need a greater role.
  • Thornton still has some problems on the South Platte and would like to look at alternative ways to assess these issues
  • WQCC is limited by triennial reviews and standards schedules-- if timing is a problem, then people have to wait until the next cycle
  • Perhaps there ought to be a way to opt out of the normal triennial review schedule if an alternative process is outlined (some things may need greater discussion, e.g., South Platte) even if we opt out after rebuttal statements
  • If there is an alternative process, we should make sure that the technical information is included.
  • Part of the problem has been "competing science"—is there really a problem—process needs to address this
  • The WQCC has wanted to move away from the huge basin triennial reviews—perhaps we should move to smaller, focused issues when necessary
  • Problem is primarily related to water quality standards
  • Need to discuss use of COGs in the water quality process

A working group on External Proposal Process was established.

Members are:

  • Paul Frohardt
  • Karen Wogsland
  • Russ Clayshulte
  • Barbara Biggs
  • Jeannette Hillery, Chairperson
  • Mark Pifher
  • Dave Merritt
  • Lee Johnson
  • Dave Holm will follow up on effluent dominated water supply issue—Next meeting—present, take questions, and possibly seek a subcommittee

Sanitary Sewer Overflows

Work Group Updates

Basic Standards Implementation Work Group

  • November 29—Rec and Antidegradation, CDPHE, 1:30

External Proposal Process Work Group

Next meetings on November 27, 11:30 at DRCOG

Nutrient Work Group

  • EPA will host a national working group (teleconference) on nutrients criteria (will be like 304(a) criteria. The expectation will be that states will adopt nutrient criteria on their own schedule (but probably needs EPA approval) by:
    1. Using EPA's criteria as a reference
    2. Using states own criteria with another reputable basis
    3. EPA criteria strictly

Ammonia Criteria Work Group

  • Warm water streams-- are looking at 30% reduction in effluent limitations
  • Will have an impact on cold water streams but not harsh

Next Meeting

  • January 4th, 2001
  • Dave Holm will present on effluent dominated water supplies
  • Legislation (Sara Duncan)

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